"Conversations" KEY POINTS REBUTTING CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALISM
The following letters address questions posed by two friends regarding the teaching of Christian Universalism, also known as Total Reconciliation or Universal Reconciliation. The points at the heart of these letters as well as many others with expansive discussion are contained in An Abstract of Bible Cosmology: Providing an Exhaustive Refutation of the Spirit-Doctrine of Christian Universalism.
Chris Anderson
First Discourse ------ Original Message ------ From: "littleflock" To: Sent: 9/16/2012 4:59:21 PM Subject: Key Points Rebutting Christian Universalism
Hello Jonathan, After our talk this morning, I wanted to send this to you. It is taken from another letter I wrote earlier this summer to one of my readers, with some embellishments. It contains the key overarching thoughts that explain why universal reconciliation cannot be true and anyone promoting it is a false teacher. I hope you will find it useful and would be glad to talk with you about it further if you would like to. Many blessings,
Chris Anderson
Christian Universalism is the belief that ultimately all that has fallen and been corrupted in the universe through sin (i.e., everything) will eventually at some unknown future time be restored to harmonious perfection in Christ. This means that all men will be saved out of hell, and in the inescapably logical extreme that satan himself will be restored to God. It is not based on an objective view of God as scripturally presented in context of the minds of the first writers, but in a prejudiced view of what God is supposed to be like superimposed on the scriptures, requiring the disregarding of the context of mind of the first writers. To
advance their belief, universalists have to prove something
that they cannot, which is that all enmity itself in the
universe will be abolished through restoration, not
destruction. Complete harmony requires the abolition of all
enmity by restoration, not by any concept of final defeat,
which is still enmity. Second Discourse [In
response to forwards by a Readers Circle member of articles
from a total reconciliation teacher named Ken Visscher.] On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:18 PM, littleflock wrote:
Following is a quote from [Visscher’s] testimony page at his website: "My preaching was that of the deranged preachers who teach of a God of everlasting torments for the damned." (The spirit of this attitude is known to be very strong in Alberta and the NW in general where it has been espoused there since the beginning of the Latter Rain movement.) Visscher, Herrin and others like them would do well to consult with others like Bill Wiese who have actually been to hell and who can tell us from first hand revelation whether or not there is any way out. (See http://spiritlessons.com/Documents/BillWiese_23MinutesinHell_Text.htm) Anyway, inasmuch as Visscher considers me a deranged preacher, I have no further need to receive his writings. Please do not send me any more writings from anyone who is promoting “total reconciliation.” Thanks, and blessings… Chris
A. Thanks again.
2. Re: Total Reconciliation / Restoration of the Creation / Christian Universalism The Gen 3:15 enmity established between the serpent with its seed and the woman with her seed (Christ) is permanent, remaining the unaltered basis for irreconcilable conflict on which the entirety of the Scripture cosmology is woven to the very last chapter of Revelation. - 2.A. All restoration of Creation through Christ happens inside the unmitigatable enmity between Christ and Lucifer--an enmity born outside of time and which therefore has no end. The Restoration of Creation does not eliminate this enmity. Christ did not die to redeem Lucifer. - Mankind is of three spiritual classes: Sheep (the reborn elect seed of the Father), Lost Sheep (the hidden elect "planting of the Father" yet unborn within men) and Goats (the non-elect seed of the serpent). The Sheep seed and Goat seed are permanently irreconcilable. - 2.B Goats are destined to the Lake of Fire, the Lake of Fire is permanent, both soul and body being destroyed (not "restored") therein. - 2.C.Total Reconciliation belief is based in offense toward the sovereignty of God and the appeasement of human rationality rooted in the human concept of fairness derived from the knowledge of good & evil. It is an Adonijah-class deception ultimately designed to secure the receiving back of the rebel Lucifer into the kingdom via the "woman" (the deceivable "passion-dominated" church--the "queen mother"--before the King), and is a manifestation of spiritual treason on the part of anyone who holds to it, however unwittingly. - 2.D. God bears no more responsibility for the fall of Creation or the deserved eternally destructive destiny of the Goat seed than He bears for the fall of Lucifer, the father of that seed. Yet God receives all credit for His gracious destiny toward the Seed of the Lamb and the establishment of the New Creation that will never fall.
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Hi Chris, God bless you and thanks for the response. I hadn't read that quote from Ken and I certainly don't agree with his position that all preachers that teach eternal torment are deranged. However, I also am not convinced that Scripture teaches that God will torture men for eternity because they sin for 80 years. If God condemns the sin of unjust weights and measures, why would His punishment for sin be so disproportionate? Sin for 80 years, tortured for eternity? I am still working this subject and have not come to a settled conclusion but I will share this. Most ministers of the established denominations view the Lake of Fire as a place of torture. Those who teach universal reconciliation believe it is the place where God ultimately reconciles man back to Himself, by burning up all that is of the flesh and is anti-Christ. Teachers of eternal hell-fire also tend to gloss over any scriptures that testify differently than they believe, for example, that Christ is the saviour of all men, especially those that believe, and that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. For what purpose? That they might then be tortured in the lake of fire for all eternity? I
haven't made up my mind on this one, but I won't reject it
out of hand just because the majority teach or believe
differently. Of course, I will however honor your
request and won't forward any more teachings from those who
promote universal reconciliation. From:
littleflock
We
have the choice to believe what scripture says because it
says it as reflected by the clear contextual minds of the
writers, or to believe what we think the scripture should
say because of what appears “fair” or “right” to our
rational mind. Human rationality is not a basis for
determining spiritual truth. Total Reconciliation is a prejudiced doctrine in search of support against the overwhelmingly clear grain of the Spirit as expressed through the minds of the writers of scripture. As an illustration, it has to “cherry pick” from a smattering of isolated debatably identifiable “evergreen trees” among a forest of clearly identifiable “deciduous trees” to try to prove that the forest is after all an “evergreen forest.” A child reading the Bible from Genesis to Revelation with an unjaundiced eye can see only one thing—that the mind of every scripture writer is grounded in context of irreconcilable enmity between Christ and Lucifer, and between Christ’s people and Lucifer’s people. Passages cherry picked in isolation that could be made out to “prove” eventual total reconciliation are interpreted against this clear context of mind of all the writers. Nowhere does Paul or John or Peter or James or Jude or the writer of Hebrews or any gospel writer or even the Lord Yeshua Himself paint a context of thought that articulates the universal mitigation of the foundational Gen. 3:15 enmity—not one! Why is this vital to the case? It’s because Total Reconciliation is not a minor point of debate over an inconsequential issue. Total Reconciliation seeks to alter our entire cosmologic framework of spiritual belief. Since the implications of Total Reconciliation are so utterly fundamental to the perception of ultimate galactic destiny, if it were true, don’t you think that even at least ONE writer of scripture would come right out and explain it??? If the redemption purchased at Calvary somehow embraced the ultimate release of all men, satan and his angels from the Lake of Fire, why wouldn’t Paul—the meticulous “rational” teacher to whom was committed the task of explaining to the entire church age the cosmologic picture of what Calvary obtained—why would he not tell us in bold forefront terms that the ultimate purpose of hell is to “purge” people of all their sins and transform the very nature of satan himself to become reconciled to God?? Are we supposed to believe that to Origen, to other unknown post-apostolic fathers and then to some isolated unknown 18th / 19th century American teachers like Andrew Jukes and their Latter Rain seed was committed this “hidden” and “lost” revelation of such counter-grain cosmologic implication???? (Isn’t this the same pattern and platform on which every cult since the first apostles has been formed?) If we want to talk about being rational, why not start here? Since Total Reconciliation as a cosmologic teaching has no fundamental contextual support from any of the Bible’s writers, its teachers have to resort beyond simple cherry picking of debatably interpretable single word texts (like the meaning of “all” which virtually always has a delimiting conditional application; and “everlasting” [aion] which in so many contexts clearly admits of no end) to the rationally absurd forced redefinition of the entire family of words that describe “punishment, destruction, damnation, torture, perishing, etc.” as if they could in any way be interpreted “redemptively” as synonyms for “discipline.” Of
course, such “tortured” redefinitions (pardon the pun) are
really the evidence of “higher revelation” to the
“illumined” while the “masses” who simply believe the
meanings of words with childlike faith are “deceived.” In
the end, Total Reconciliation makes an absurdity of Calvary
itself. John 3:16 tells us that the purpose of Calvary was
to make it so that men “might not perish.”
If to perish under the flames of the Lake of Fire is in
reality God’s ultimate plan to “save” and restore men
through what is but a more severe form of “discipline,” ( a
concept Hebrews tells us to welcome), then Calvary was first
of all unnecessary, secondly is far reduced in significance
and thirdly, it was illogical. Next,
what is the fruit of Total Reconciliation? Take a good look
at the ministries built on it. They have no meaningful
burden for the lost. They don’t want to even talk about
saving men from hell (only from “sin”). Why do men need to
be saved from something that is going to save them anyway,
if only (when weighed in eternal terms) it is a “little
more” unpleasant way to go? The
final nail in the coffin of Total Reconciliation is what it
means for the concept of spiritual warfare. Scripture tells
us in no uncertain terms that we are at enmity with the
devil and his forces. Total Reconciliation dilutes our
perception of Lucifer from being our permanently sworn enemy
to our eventual “brother” in the celestial by-and-by. One
cannot steward psychologically opposing views of satan and
long maintain a position of warfare against him. So
as I said at the beginning, we have a choice. We can either
accept the unbreakable Word of God as it has been written in
its offensively plain language, embracing by faith what
appears from our limited human vantage as rationally unfair
and unjust about our God (yes, there is plenty of Old
Testament evidence of the Lord forcing his enemies
to worship Him), or we can create and embrace our own
irrationality by trying to break the scriptures to suit our
“rationality.” Let
me just close by reminding you of something that I see about
you... On one hand you have a wonderfully eager spirit after
truth. But on the other hand you seem to have an in-bred
“fatal attraction” to counter-orthodox teaching. True
revelation is “trans-orthodox,” not “counter-orthodox.”
There is no virtue in believing in a doctrine simply because
it is opposite to what the majority believe. I end here. Hope this small “dissertation” will work to your permanent edification and growth. Be blessed.
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