A Coffee Klatch with Special Guest “L. J.” Christ August
24, 2008 By now,
most if not all of us have read the apology from Dutch
Sheets that reverberated late last week through the
mainstream and wilderness churches. It was the noblest
confession I have ever read from a mainstream culture
prophet. A less widely read but equally noble piece came
out from Christine Beadsworth who is sometimes published
on Storm Harvest—giving a heartfelt warning to the “I told
you so” wilderness camp. (If you have not seen either of
these messages and would like a copy, please write.) Under the
hubbub around Todd Bentley however, my own heart has been
in another place altogether. That place is revealed in an
imaginary conversation I had with our Friend the Lord
Jesus (“L. J.”) Christ at Starbucks late last week. For
whatever its value in leading us to something past Todd, I
share it herewith. (The Lord’s words are in red. But for
those who can’t see the dialogue in color, His words are
marked with a “+” sign.) &&&&&&&&&& Fri.,
8.22.08 In my
mind, I walked into Starbucks a couple nights ago, though
I wasn’t sure it was not really a tavern. On entering, I
saw the Lord sitting at a table for two over by the right
wall. As I walked by He looked up and invited me to sit
down. He knew I had a lot on my mind; and as always, I was
glad to see Him. +“Coffee?”
He asked. (He knew I
didn’t drink coffee, but He seemed to like His.) “No,
thanks.” +“And
so?” (said He) as I
sat down, giving me the desired opening….
“Well,
Lord, what do you make of the whole Lakeland thing? What
gives? Is it over?” +“What
do you make of it?” “Well, I
know what I think I see. There were miracles, healings.
You were certainly present. (I know you certainly touched
me.) But the thing with Todd Bentley and all. It seemed
like when I first tuned in, it really was about You. But
now it’s all about Todd. I mean, sure, things have
happened to him. But it’s like nobody can see past
him—like You were never there at all or had anything to do
with it.” +“I
know.” “Well,
were you there (or was it just my imagination)? And if so,
why all this out of it? What’s the point?” +“Yes,
I was there. In fact, I saw it all coming.” “You mean
you authored this thing, even though you knew this was
going to devolve into a ‘Todd-on-trial’ show?” +“Yes.” “But why?” +“Chris,
you have said you want to see My ways. So have your
friends. Everyone says they want to see My ways. But when
I actually show them My ways, they cannot accept that is
what they are seeing. They already have an image of what
My ways should look like. So when they see what I am
doing, but it doesn’t fit their image of how I should act
or what I should allow, they conclude I am not in
something or behind it or in control of it.” “What is
Your point then?” +“My
point is I am trying to accomplish something in My People.
And in order to do it, I have to send my Spirit on those
who are desirous to receive Me for what I can do for them,
but who don’t understand the larger picture of who I am,
of what I require of them, and who even retain things in
their lives which I abhor, and which they know I abhor.” “But what
does that accomplish? I mean, if you want glory, why show
up in compromised situations like this where in the end
it’s just going to become about one more man, especially a
fallen one? Why don’t you send your Spirit on people who
have already demonstrated they’ve paid the prices for
following You?—people you can trust!” +“First
of all, I haven’t said it’s ‘the end.’ You have. But
beside this, you’ve been asking me that same question for
25 years, and you’ve done your best to understand. But
even you don’t get it all yet. Now, who were those people
you were speaking of that I could trust? Did you mean
yourself?” “Well, I
mean…well, yes, I guess so. But not just me. All your
obedient wilderness people. You know. Like I said, all the
people who have already paid the prices—people who’ve
given up everything to follow you like you’ve asked of
us.” +“Do
you think I can trust them?” “Why not?” +“Who
are they talking about?” “You mean
right now?” +“Yes.” “Well,
Todd Bentley, of course. Everybody’s talking about Todd.” +“Didn’t
you just ask me how if I want glory, why do I show up in
compromised situations?” “Well,
yes.” +“Well
where is my glory among the ones you think I can trust if
they are just as fixated on Todd as they claim everyone
else has been?” “OK. I
think I see.” +“No.
You have only begun to see. This comes back to my saying
‘I have a work to accomplish in My People’ by these
compromised events. When I said, ‘My people,’ I meant ALL
my people, not just ‘those’ people. You see, I have just
proven again that My People are not truly ready for My
Glory. I have tested them all, and found fault with them
all. Hardly has a man been able to remain fixed on Me
throughout this outpouring.” “But it
doesn’t seem fair, Lord. I mean, haven’t You told us to
discern the true from the false in all these things? What
about all the false Christs You Yourself said would come?
Didn’t you praise the Ephesians for trying false
apostles?” +“Indeed
I did. But did you also notice I had to rebuke them as
well? And what for? For failing to remain fixed on Me and
keep their first love sharp.” “So how
can we discern and try things without departing from
giving you all attention?” +“Son,
this is exactly what your friends need to understand. You
cannot truly discern if your attention does become removed
from Me. If you remove your gaze from Me to prosecute what
I show you, your discernment is no longer of Me, it is of
you.” “So our
discernment about Todd was false? I mean, look what
happened? He cooked His own goose! Weren’t all the
discerners proved right? And I could have just as easily
joined them and even led the charge if it hadn’t been for
You saying, ‘Just listen!’” +“Not
so much false, but distorted so as to be of no use to Me
in preserving MY pre-eminence. The truth is, Chris, for
all that you have seen, neither Todd’s people nor your
people yet know the whole story about Todd. And they never
will. And there is yet far more for all of you to hear
regarding My ways in all this than anyone has heard. The
question for all of you remains, ‘Is the discernment I
gave you of Todd Bentley where your faith ends concerning
what I reveal of Myself through Lakeland?’” “It looks
like that is where we are headed.” +“Remember,
it is not I who said Lakeland has ‘ended.’ It is your
companions who have made this declaration. I have not
ceased revealing Myself to those who are still receiving
of My release there—yourself included. But for all whose
faith has taken them no further than to have seen Todd or
how I have dealt with him—for them Lakeland is ‘ended,’
for I am no longer their center of attention—if I ever
was.” “What’s to
become of us then?” +“My
first people circled many mountains before they were ready
to be led out of the wilderness. Do not forget that all
the delays in fulfilling My People’s destiny were
self-imposed through lack of faith in Me.” “So you
are saying we have not received the promised revival
because we have delayed it through our own unbelief—even
those of us seeking for pure revival?” +“You
have seen with your own eyes that those who have cried
loudest for pure revival have no more kept their eyes off
a man than those whose revival desire is less mature.” “So we
will have to circle again? Another dubious outpouring?” +“I
am about to pour myself out on more confounding men. I
have said I will pour myself out on all flesh. And I will
continue to do so until all who cry for pure revival prove
to Me they are capable of fixating on Me and receiving
from Me without regard to the nature of those whom I
choose to visit. Many of my cross-bearing people await a
‘faceless’ revival. Yet none have shown the ability to
look past the face of the men by whom I appear in order to
receive ME in spite of them.” “But what
do we do with our discernment over what’s wrong and needs
to be exposed! I mean it is YOUR Spirit showing us all
this stuff about the people you fall on! We’re not making
it up. In fact I know that a lot of our people would
rather not even have to deal with all of what they see.” +“Whose
Voice would you rather have speak to the evils, yours or
Mine?” “Yours, of
course.” +“Then
where should you direct your discernment? And for what
purpose do you think I have released it to you?” “I guess
intercession then?” +“That
wasn’t so hard, was it?” “But Lord,
that sounds like so much of a ‘cop-out’! Just ‘pray’ about
it?—while all the junk goes on? I mean what is discernment
for if we’re not supposed to declare it? How will anything
get exposed and dealt with?” +“If
your people are saying they can’t trust me through
intercession to strategically intervene to expose and root
out tares amid my outpourings, on what basis do they trust
themselves to do it?” “I know
Lord, but if it hadn’t been for all the people with
discernment nailing Todd Bentley, how would he have ever
been found out?” +“You
are still without understanding. It was not the unbridled
internet voices of your people that enabled me to deal
with Todd. It was the voices of those who cried to Me in
secret, allowing Me to strategically move among those in
the authoritative line of Todd’s own relationships to
bring his hidden issues to light.” “Well…” +“Chris,
my prophetic people still have a very long way to go in
properly handling My power of discernment. You know how I
have had you write on this already. All of you have yet to
learn how to both receive from Me while discerning what is
not of Me. Do you think that by maturing your power to
discern, I intended to quench your child-like ability to
receive? No matter how much you gain in perception
regarding the work of the Evil One, you will never outgrow
your need to receive from Me with the simplicity,
innocence and humility of a child.” “Lord,
it’s impossible to receive from You and discern what’s not
of You at the same time in these mixed moves! And the more
you show up through impure vessels in impure settings, the
‘more impossible’ it is. The
truth is Lord most of our people would really like to
receive what they sense of Your Spirit in these
visitations—at least I think they would. (I hope they
would?) But they’re scared because if they dare admit Your
Spirit is truly healing people through such dubious
vessels, they fear it will compromise their discernment.
If they lay it down to receive from You, they fear being
untrue to You and party to covering up what lurks behind
these ministers (not to mention receiving of a false
spirit themselves). I mean, ARGHH it’s just too hard!! Why
do you make it so hard? How can we ever receive from you
under such conditions??” +“Did
you say ‘hard?’ Yes, it is ‘hard.’ I am a ‘hard Lord.’
Discipleship is ‘hard.’ Advanced discipleship is even
‘harder.’ But why should your fellow disciples complain to
Me about this seeing they already accept hardship as the
price of following Me? Are they now saying they will not
follow Me in this hardship? Yes, it is impossible to discern and receive from Me at the same
time—IF you are holding onto discernment! For my gift of
discernment comes planted within the shell of your own
cynicism, and your faith can never rise to receive Me
where your cynicism remains unbroken. But I didn’t give
you My discernment to hold onto. I gave it to you to
release back to Me for My action through intercession, and
thus to break off your cynicism so you might receive from
Me. And did you say my discerners are “afraid?” You say they fear that if
they dare to receive Bread from My Spirit, I will instead
give them what serpents also lurk behind my anointed ones?
This is unbelief, and calls for casting out by a perfect
Love fixated in Me that blinds them to all else but Me.
Such is the fearless first love I still yearn for from my
‘Ephesian’ wilderness faithful.” “There’s
not much I can say to any of this, Lord.” +“That’s
a good place to be. For I have said that every mouth would
be stopped before Me.” “Yes, you
did, didn’t you.” +“When
my obedient ones learn the mystery of discerning and
receiving, and of how I use poison to purge from poison,
it is THEN they will be entrusted as My choice stewards in
revival. It is not upon My larger church that I wait.
Otherwise why do I continue pouring Myself upon them? It
is upon my faithful desert dwellers in their unpurged
discernment—on them, I say, I wait. For until they learn
to see, trust and receive of Me alone while discerning of
Me over my impure vessels, I cannot entrust them to be
vessels of the purified revival for which they long.” “Are you
waiting on me? Can you trust me yet?” +“Now
that you understand, you know what you are to do…” “Yes
Lord.” &&&&&&&&&& The
conversation was over. There was no more to be said. I got
up to leave. But I knew what I had to do. And now, I
have done it… Chris Anderson First Love Ministry - a ministry of Anglemar Fellowship http://www.firstloveministry.org 8/08 BACK TO TOP Page created October 7, 2008 |