POINTERS ON TESTING THE SPIRITS
CROSS VEIL ENCOUNTERS
This conversation arises as sequel to the article Testing the Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation. For other discussion on this important topic, please see the articles Testing by Trusting: Keys to Testing the Voice of the Lord and Prophetic Words, and this pertinent section from Lest the Elect Should Be Deceived
writes today with some questions about testing the spirits
unique to what he is seeing in Kenya. Meanwhile, the series
on Revelation has also begun inviting comments from
strangers to this Circle seeking to introduce me to “beyond
the veil” revelations of others past and
present—that in turn requires further spirit testing
from me with an eye to avoiding distraction.
as we peer further and further into the Revelation we
know, I am expecting God to give us more advanced
discernment for evaluating the revelation of those we
don't know as it comes along. This is badly needed, seeing
that incursions by others bringing back reports from "the
other side" continue to increase. Watch for this in upcoming
------ Original Message ------
From: "HILARY RUTO" Kenya
Sent: 5/21/2016 8:15:15 AM
Subject: Re: First Love Readers Circle: Testing the Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation
Once again I would like to thank you
for this insight given by the Holy Ghost. It is important we
test everything by the Spirit of truth dwelling in us
in this end times we are living in where issues are very
------ Original Message ------
To: "Anglemar Fellowship"
Sent: 5/23/2016 9:52:17 PM
Subject: RE (Response 2): First Love Readers Circle: Testing the Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation
Thank you for writing, Hilary.
The answer is yes, God is beginning to bring us into the final season for manifesting things I have written about. We are moving into the dawning of stewardship salvation. We are moving into the dawning of the next revelation of Christ. We are moving into the restoration of mosaic authority. We are moving into the dawn of the new Melchizedekian nationhood with kingdom responsibility, and so on. The key word is “dawn.” All these things are in the twilight of the new day. We are seeing the beginnings of the dawn. But the full day is not here. I talk a bit more about the dawning aspect compared to the full day or “sunrise” of Christ’s return here.
receiving mandates from departed saints: So, here we are
getting into revelations beyond the veil and out of body
experiences. The question is, are these possible?
But does that mean that any claim to such an encounter is real? The answer is absolutely not. And the reality is that most claims to such encounters are not real. This is where we get into the testing of spirits. Every testimony to cross-veil experiences has to be tested for validity. They have to be measured by a number of things. Let's look at these.
cross veil testimonies have to be measured by the spirit
of the man making the claim.
In what way does the claim work to direct people to look to Christ? Is the effect of the claim to cause the people to be in awe of the angel, the departed saint or the man that had the encounter? Or does it put the people in awe of Christ and the Father?
This has to be asked because in all biblical encounters with departed saints, no such saint is specifically named or identified. There is a reason for this. True angel saints function under the same mandate as the Holy Spirit, which is to not bring attention to themselves, but to Christ. They work functionally and discreetly. And then it’s over. They’re gone. You don’t keep hearing from them. The unnamed brother that escorted John on his mystical tour specifically disavowed receiving any glory belonging to God.
So then, what is the purpose for the claim of John the Baptist being the commissioner of prophet David Owuor? Even if it was John, why is it important for the people to know that? Did Christ authorize the use of John’s identity this way? Again, none of this is to say the claim is untrue. But the questions need to be asked in order to test the spirit behind the claim. If there is a reason for naming this departed saint contrary to biblical revelatory pattern, there ought to be an explanation for it. (By the way, the same test ought to have been applied to Todd Bentley and Bob Jones over the angel so-called “Emma” back in the Lakeland Revival days.)
does the teaching or revelation coming out of the cross veil
experience support the message of the cross and
respect foundational apostolic teaching in the
what is the authority scope of the claimant and what
are his witnesses to that scope of authority?
These are some key factors by which the spirits of cross veil claimants must be examined. As for prophet David Owuor, from what little I can tell online, he seems to be a man of gentle genuine character in his actual ministering, the miracles appear real and the earthquake predictions true, though I find the sensational character of his website unbecoming to a true and mature prophet. There is of course all kinds of media flare following after him along with a hyped up people, but a man’s own spirit can’t be weighed by the hype accorded to him by the masses. I don’t know anything about his teachings.
case, see if you can use these few pointers to help get a
better tested sense of where this man stands before the
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